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Backtrace and its Discontents


I’ve recently had conversations with two of Backtrace Security’s esteemed members, Ashura (Jennifer Emick) and a guy named Zud, at 2600.net, where they have been in the habit of hanging out at #jester for the purpose of sharing information with AnonymousDown pursuant to their common goal of getting participants sent to prison. Although AnonymousDown promised to me as well as several concerned #jester chanops that he would no longer involve himself in those sorts of activities – which have included threats to dox my ex-girlfriend and her sixteen-year-old daughter on Twitter – Backtrace seems pretty emotionally invested in attacking a great number of people, even those who are only associated with Anonymous via our efforts to assist North Africans and the like.

Incidentally, Asherah was already known to be behind Backtrace, and further information may be seen here: http://www.jenniferemick.com/opinions/omg-i-am-a-star/

Zud, who went by FakeTopiary on Twitter until wisely deleting that account and switching over to Patriotic Nigra, spoke to me several weeks ago on 2600, at which point I only knew that he was an emotionally disturbed douchebag without knowing specifically which emotionally disturbed douchebag he happened to be.

[00:18] <BarrettBrown> AnonymousDown
[00:18] <BarrettBrown> has some "numbers"
[00:18] <BarrettBrown> won't stop until I'm in prison
[00:18] <BarrettBrown> and then will keep harassing Emma
[00:19] <BarrettBrown> both of them go after Emmma
[00:19] <BarrettBrown> he was talking about it just now
[00:19] <BarrettBrown> it's not enough that I'm going to prison
[00:19] <BarrettBrown> he has to try to fuck with a woman whom I still love
[00:19] <BarrettBrown> that's who he is
[00:19] <zud> Emma has made herself a target by being part of the chaos that is Anonymous Operations
[00:20] <BarrettBrown> and she got involved because off Tunisia
[00:20] <BarrettBrown> she works with refugees
[00:20] <BarrettBrown> mostly Arab women who escaped Islam
[00:20] <BarrettBrown> now she's a "target"
[00:20] <BarrettBrown> she doesn't even do the job for money
[00:20] <BarrettBrown> she holds another job at a fucking flower shop
[00:20] <zud> to be honest
[00:20] <zud> Emma Allan's just a standard religious biggot
[00:20] <BarrettBrown> I know what she is
[00:20] <zud> The word Scientologists use so frequently applies to her so well
[00:20] <zud> I've read her papers on religions
[00:21] <BarrettBrown> she's opposed to them, yes, particularly Islam
[00:21] <zud> she's a standard issue atheist scumbag
[00:21] <BarrettBrown> she's into women's rights, you see
[00:21] <BarrettBrown> oh, okay
[00:21] <BarrettBrown> she's an atheist
[00:21] <BarrettBrown> and here I was defending her
[00:21] <zud> she's a hate monger in addition to that
[00:21] <BarrettBrown> she should probably go to prison too
[00:21] <zud> no she should burn in hell
[00:21] <BarrettBrown> well, is that enough for you?
[00:21] <zud> she hasn't broken any man-made laws yet that I'm
[00:37] <BarrettBrown> but seriously, man
[00:37] <BarrettBrown> I just don't want someone's teenage daughter threatened
[00:37] <BarrettBrown> that's fucking bullshit
[00:37] <zud> what if the mother gets tormented then?
[00:38] <BarrettBrown> I don't want that either. She did nothing other than try to help organize Arab women for reform
[00:39] <zud> I don't particularly care for people who interfere in other countries business either
[00:39] <BarrettBrown> She didn't realize that anyone who associates with Anonymous was going to be targeted
[00:40] <zud> I don't particularly care for people who interfere in other countries business either <=== THIS
[00:40] <BarrettBrown> not a Bush fan, eh?
[00:40] <BarrettBrown> I've got to go
[00:40] <zud> I don't think white people need to bother sand niggers
[00:41] <zud> they lived that way for hundreds of years before we got involved

Yesterday, after I was shown proof that Zud was FakeTopiary/Patriotic Nigra/Some Backtrace weirdo, he PMed me at 2600, and eventually confirmed his identity.


[22:49] <zud> I mean, you know that I'm @patrioticnigra/@faketopiary right?

Today I PMed Asherah upon being informed that she is FakeGreggHoush. I showed her zed’s comments and asked her about the threats to dox Emma and her daughter.

[17:05] <Asherah> Because i don't have time for your schoolgirl complaints
[17:06] <BarrettBrown> You have plenty of time
[17:06] ->> Asherah is away: I'm busy
[17:06] <Asherah> and no amount of whining about zud or anyone else
[17:06] <Asherah> will change the course that has been laid
[17:06] <BarrettBrown> I'm not cool with you looking into the teenage daughter of my ex-girlfriend
[17:06] ->> Asherah is away: I'm busy
[17:06] <BarrettBrown> That's way over the line
[17:06] ->> Asherah is away: I'm busy
[17:06] <BarrettBrown> And it shows
[17:06] ->> Asherah is away: I'm busy
[17:06] <Asherah> I don't care what you're cool with
[17:06] <BarrettBrown> That your alleged ethical considerations are nonsense

[17:09] <Asherah> Let's get back to the part you don't get
[17:09] <BarrettBrown> The part about you looking into a sixteen-year-old girl?
[17:09] ->> Asherah is away: I'm busy
[17:09] <Asherah> Even if you could persuade me (of anything)
[17:09] <Asherah> it's already too late
[17:09] <BarrettBrown> Because she committed the crime of being the daughter of someone I love?
[17:09] ->> Asherah is away: I'm busy
[17:09] <Asherah> What's coming is coming
[17:09] <Asherah> it's over
[17:10] <Asherah> Nobody cares about your girlfriend
[17:10] <Asherah> or anyone she's with
[17:10] <BarrettBrown> Except for you and Zud
[17:10] ->> Asherah is away: I'm busy
[17:10] <BarrettBrown> Who care quite a bit
[17:10] ->> Asherah is away: I'm busy
[17:10] <Asherah> and you are harping on it because you like the sympathy
[17:10] <BarrettBrown> You've personally harassed her
[17:10] ->> Asherah is away: I'm busy
[17:10] <Asherah> You're a pretty suck guy
[17:10] <BarrettBrown> She was frightened out of her mind and didn't understand why you would do that
[17:10] ->> Asherah is away: I'm busy
[17:10] <BarrettBrown> She works with fucking refugees
[17:10] ->> Asherah is away: I'm busy
[17:11] <BarrettBrown> And she was keen on OpTunisia
[17:11] ->> Asherah is away: I'm busy
[17:11] <Asherah> I never even knew her name until she jumped into the fight
[17:11] <BarrettBrown> And you guys harassed her
[17:11] ->> Asherah is away: I'm busy
[17:11] <BarrettBrown> She didn't jump into any fight
[17:11] ->> Asherah is away: I'm busy
[17:11] <BarrettBrown> She promoted OpTunisia
[17:11] <Asherah> If she's frightened, she should not be cheerleading criminals and terrorists
[17:11] <Asherah> I don't care
[17:11] <BarrettBrown> I know you don't
[17:11] ->> Asherah is away: I'm busy
[17:11] <BarrettBrown> You have no ethics
[17:11] ->> Asherah is away: I'm busy
[17:11] <Asherah> I never saw her before she jumped in making dumb threats on twitter
[17:11] <Asherah> That said
[17:11] <BarrettBrown> She never made any threats
[17:11] ->> Asherah is away: I'm busy
[17:12] <Asherah> I will not discuss the Barrett Brown pity play any longer
[17:12] <BarrettBrown> You're a low person, and I hope you get help
[17:12] ->> Asherah is away: I'm busy
[17:12] <Asherah> If your GF is truly concerned for her daughter
[17:12] <Asherah> She will stop risking jail
[17:12] <BarrettBrown> There's something very wrong with you
[17:12] ->> Asherah is away: I'm busy
[17:12] <BarrettBrown> She's not risking jail
[17:12] ->> Asherah is away: I'm busy
[17:12] <Asherah> Says the "life ruiner"
[17:12] <Asherah> She is definitely risking jail
[17:12] <BarrettBrown> How the fuck is she risking jail by providing assistance to Arab women?
[17:12] ->> Asherah is away: I'm busy
[17:12] <Asherah> She's consorting with crimninals
[17:13] <Asherah> CommanderX is a fugitive
[17:13] <BarrettBrown> She doesn't know CommanderX
[17:13] ->> Asherah is away: I'm busy
[17:13] <Asherah> He's on a no fly list
[17:13] <Asherah> Wolfy is AWOl from the army
[17:13] <BarrettBrown> and you're just trying to come up with reasons to justify something unjustifiable
[17:13] ->> Asherah is away: I'm busy
[17:13] <Asherah> and about to do very hard time
[17:13] <Asherah> possibly face treason charges
[17:13] <BarrettBrown> You have no idea what Emma does and who she knows but you harassed her anyway
[17:13] ->> Asherah is away: I'm busy
[17:13] <Asherah> You kids just don't seem to get through your thick skulls how badly you fucked up
[17:13] <BarrettBrown> And the manner in which you did so
[17:13] ->> Asherah is away: I'm busy
[17:13] <BarrettBrown> Shows that there's something else driving you to do this
[17:13] ->> Asherah is away: I'm busy
[17:14] <Asherah> I'm not trying to justify myself
[17:15] <Asherah> and the people going to prison
[17:16] <BarrettBrown> You need to think hard about what you're doing and why.
[17:16] ->> Asherah is away: I'm busy
[17:16] <Asherah> are still going to prison
[17:16] <BarrettBrown> I know
[17:16] ->> Asherah is away: I'm busy
[17:16] <Asherah> no matter how much you emote about how much it personally hurts you that someone annoyed your girlfriend
[17:16] <BarrettBrown> I'm going to try to prevent that from happening by providing them legal assistance when I can.
[17:16] ->> Asherah is away: I'm busy
[17:16] <Asherah> I am not "doing."
[17:16] <Asherah> I have already done.
[17:17] <Asherah> All that remains is some coordination between the many agencies you have pissed off
[17:17] <Asherah> Arrests have already been made
[17:17] <BarrettBrown> Why are you telling me these things?
[17:17] ->> Asherah is away: I'm busy
[17:17] <Asherah> Because
[17:17] <Asherah> there is nothing you can do
[17:17] <BarrettBrown> Not because you want to feel triumph or anything, right?
[17:17] ->> Asherah is away: I'm busy
[17:17] <Asherah> because you need to know you're tilting at a windmill
[17:18] <BarrettBrown> And you want me to know that for what reason?
[17:18] ->> Asherah is away: I'm busy
[17:18] <BarrettBrown> Think hard
[17:18] ->> Asherah is away: I'm busy
[17:19] <Asherah> So you don't continue the delusion you can sway me by calling people racists or your other get Barrett sympathy stories
[17:19] <BarrettBrown> You really don't consider zud to be a racist based on what he said about "sand niggers"?
[17:19] <BarrettBrown> Who just can't help but fight each other, regardless of white people intervening?
[17:19] ->> Asherah is away: I'm busy
[17:20] <Asherah> Again, that's not something I have any plans to discuss with you
[17:20] <BarrettBrown> And that he considers Emma to be one of those "white people" and also, by virtue of being an atheist, deserving to burn in hell?
[17:20] ->> Asherah is away: I'm busy
[17:20] <Asherah> and you don't care
[17:20] <BarrettBrown> You already discussed it
[17:20] ->> Asherah is away: I'm busy
[17:20] <Asherah> You're looking for wedge
[17:20] <Asherah> to break something apart that doesn't exist
[17:20] <Asherah> is pathetic
[17:21] <Asherah> Zud is a social engineer
[17:21] <BarrettBrown> You'd prefer not to pursue it because it shows what you people are really about
[17:21] ->> Asherah is away: I'm busy
[17:21] <Asherah> He says things
[17:21] <Asherah> it's his job to say things that bother people and get them to react
[17:21] <BarrettBrown> No, that's not what you said earlier
[17:21] ->> Asherah is away: I'm busy
[17:21] <BarrettBrown> You just said you didn't care and that it's not your business
[17:21] ->> Asherah is away: I'm busy
[17:21] <Asherah> I don't care
[17:21] <BarrettBrown> Now you're trying to pretend that it was some secret plan
[17:21] ->> Asherah is away: I'm busy
[17:22] <Asherah> It's not a secret plan
[17:22] <BarrettBrown> You have this need to exude competence and superiority
[17:22] ->> Asherah is away: I'm busy
[17:22] <Asherah> we're quite open about it
[17:22] <BarrettBrown> You know what I mean. That the intent was "social engineering."
[17:22] ->> Asherah is away: I'm busy
[17:22] <BarrettBrown> People like to say that when they do something stupid.
[17:22] ->> Asherah is away: I'm busy
[17:22] <Asherah> and again: I don't care.  Zud is not a racist.  You're a fool.  Some things are constants.
[17:22] <Asherah> In our case, it is true.  it is what we do.
[17:23] <Asherah> Take it or lkeave it.
[17:23] <BarrettBrown> "[16:43] <Asherah> If it bothers you tell his mommy"
[17:23] ->> Asherah is away: I'm busy
[17:23] <BarrettBrown> That was you dismissing the obvious point
[17:23] ->> Asherah is away: I'm busy
[17:23] <BarrettBrown> You know he's a racist.
[17:23] ->> Asherah is away: I'm busy
[17:23] <Asherah> I don't know why you think i feel any need whatsoever to persuade you.  I don't.
[17:23] <BarrettBrown> You also said you don't care.
[17:23] ->> Asherah is away: I'm busy
[17:23] <Asherah> I know you are not concerned for others.
[17:23] <BarrettBrown> Interesting. Is that why you tried to play it off as social engineering?
[17:23] ->> Asherah is away: I'm busy
[17:23] <BarrettBrown> You know nothing of the sort.
[17:23] ->> Asherah is away: I'm busy
[17:23] <BarrettBrown> The people that actually know me think otherwise.
[17:23] ->> Asherah is away: I'm busy
[17:24] <Asherah> You're not as brilliant with words as you believe, Barrett.  You'll win no concessions from me.
[17:24] <Asherah> And even if you did, what would that do?
[17:24] <BarrettBrown> Oh, certainly.
[17:24] ->> Asherah is away: I'm busy
[17:24] <Asherah> Do you think I will have a suidden epiphany that Zud is a bad guy and call the FBI and CID and tell them it was all a mistake and please not arrest people?
[17:25] <BarrettBrown> No, but I want to show you that you're not thinking clearly and that the reasons you think you have are nonsense.
[17:25] ->> Asherah is away: I'm busy
[17:25] <BarrettBrown> You have personal animosity towards Gregg Housh and so does Zud.
[17:25] ->> Asherah is away: I'm busy
[17:25] <BarrettBrown> That's what unites you.
[17:25] ->> Asherah is away: I'm busy
[17:25] <Asherah> There's nothing for you to show me
[17:25] <BarrettBrown> I see

Later…

[17:28] <Asherah> Barrett Brown, savior of the world
[17:29] <Asherah> Well, you wanted a save Barrett banner, you'll probably get one.  Do heroin and write books in prison.  Ideal, really.  Maybe even marry your girl and get conjugal visits.
[17:32] <BarrettBrown> Maybe you can cast a magic spell to get me out?
[17:32] ->> Asherah is away: I'm busy
[17:34] <Asherah> Nah, I prefer to let the man with the rough hands handle you.  I suspect you prefer it that way too.
[17:38] <BarrettBrown> Do you really think the message I left for you two months back constitutes a "threat"?
[17:38] ->> Asherah is away: I'm busy
[17:39] <Asherah> Message?
[17:43] <BarrettBrown> "You are judged by the company you keep"
[17:43] ->> Asherah is away: I'm busy
[17:43] <BarrettBrown> Do you agree with that?
[17:43] ->> Asherah is away: I'm busy
[17:45] <BarrettBrown> Funny how Zud, of all people, is talking about Anons being racist.
[17:45] ->> Asherah is away: I'm busy
[17:45] <BarrettBrown> At any rate, that quote is of course from you.
[17:45] ->> Asherah is away: I'm busy
[17:45] <Asherah> I think I made it clear that I have no interest in philosophical discussion
[17:45] <Asherah> What quote?
[17:45] <Asherah> Make sense
[17:45] <BarrettBrown> "You are judged by the company you keep."
[17:45] ->> Asherah is away: I'm busy
[17:45] <BarrettBrown> You said that.
[17:45] ->> Asherah is away: I'm busy
[17:45] <BarrettBrown> Does it apply to you, too?
[17:45] ->> Asherah is away: I'm busy
[17:45] <BarrettBrown> Or just your enemies?
[17:45] ->> Asherah is away: I'm busy
[17:46] <Asherah> <Asherah> I think I made it clear that I have no interest in philosophical discussion
[17:46] <BarrettBrown> Your definition of "philosophical discussion" is pretty broad.
[17:46] ->> Asherah is away: I'm busy
[17:46] <Asherah> Could be
[17:46] <BarrettBrown> And only seems to come up when your hypocrisy is noted.
[17:46] ->> Asherah is away: I'm busy
[17:47] <Asherah> But I've already listened to an hour of your blather about how Zud's supposed racism is supposed to have some affect on my intentions or actions
[17:47] <Asherah> It doesn't, and won't
[17:47] <BarrettBrown> Well, my point is that much of what you two say is disingenuous
[17:47] ->> Asherah is away: I'm busy
[17:48] <Asherah> Well look at that
[17:48] <BarrettBrown> He's pointing to ironic references to racism by Anons as something he has a problem with when he unironically uses the term "sand niggers" out of contempt for Arabs
[17:48] ->> Asherah is away: I'm busy
[17:47] ->> Asherah is away: I'm busy
[17:48] <Asherah> Well look at that
[17:48] <BarrettBrown> He's pointing to ironic references to racism by Anons as something he has a problem with when he unironically uses the term "sand niggers" out of contempt for Arabs
[17:48] ->> Asherah is away: I'm busy
[17:48] <BarrettBrown> And you "judge" others by the company they keep while disregarding any points made about the company you keep.
[17:48] ->> Asherah is away: I'm busy
[17:48] <BarrettBrown> Does that not bother you?
[17:48] ->> Asherah is away: I'm busy
[17:49] <BarrettBrown> Do you know what Drifter does when he's not working with you?
[17:49] ->> Asherah is away: I'm busy
[17:49] <Asherah> You're so bad at this
[17:50] <BarrettBrown> Thanks for the honest assessment, disignenuous and emotionally disturbed person with whom I'm in a conflict!
[17:50] ->> Asherah is away: I'm busy
[17:51] <BarrettBrown> Remember when you threatened to tell the editor of D about something you claim the editor of D did?
[17:51] <BarrettBrown> That's a good example of incompetence.
[17:51] ->> Asherah is away: I'm busy
[17:51] <Asherah> ThSure thing Barrett
[17:51] <Asherah> And then what?
[17:51] <Asherah> Is that all you got?
[17:52] <BarrettBrown> Clearly, yes, because that's an example I used.
[17:52] ->> Asherah is away: I'm busy
[17:52] <Asherah> Semi-lucid whining?
[17:52] <BarrettBrown> You put out several addresses for places I don't live.
[17:52] ->> Asherah is away: I'm busy
[17:52] <BarrettBrown> In Austin.
[17:52] ->> Asherah is away: I'm busy
[17:52] <BarrettBrown> when I live in Dallas.
[17:52] ->> Asherah is away: I'm busy
[17:52] <Asherah> That's irrelevant
[17:52] <BarrettBrown> You've put down names of people who are not Anons as being in Anon and released it.
[17:52] <Asherah> Cops know where you are
[17:52] ->> Asherah is away: I'm busy
[17:52] <Asherah> FBI knows
[17:52] <Asherah> Eveyone on the list is anon
[17:53] <BarrettBrown> That's not at all the case.
[17:53] ->> Asherah is away: I'm busy
[17:53] <Asherah> Most of the list squares with the FBI's own list
[17:53] <BarrettBrown> It wasn't the case with Aaron Barr's list, either.
[17:53] ->> Asherah is away: I'm busy
[17:53] <Asherah> That's your claim, noted
[17:53] <Asherah> and your claim is irrelevant
[17:53] <Asherah> The names on the list are accurate
[17:53] <BarrettBrown> Dude.
[17:53] <BarrettBrown> Dude.
[17:53] ->> Asherah is away: I'm busy
[17:53] <BarrettBrown> You guys yourself said otherwise to the press.
[17:53] ->> Asherah is away: I'm busy
[17:53] <BarrettBrown> You admitted that a lot of it isn't.
[17:53] ->> Asherah is away: I'm busy
[17:54] <BarrettBrown> Do you want me to show you the article?
[17:54] ->> Asherah is away: I'm busy
[17:54] <BarrettBrown> This is why you need to coordinate with the people with whom you're working.
[17:54] ->> Asherah is away: I'm busy
[17:54] <Asherah> I never admitted any such thing
[17:54] <BarrettBrown> Heh.
[17:54] ->> Asherah is away: I'm busy
[17:54] <BarrettBrown> Okay.
[17:54] ->> Asherah is away: I'm busy
[17:54] <Asherah> And our data has been confirmed
[17:55] <Asherah> You can strike the windmill again if you like
[17:55] <Asherah> it will win
[17:55] <BarrettBrown> Are you the windmill?
[17:55] ->> Asherah is away: I'm busy
[17:55] <Asherah> Inevitibility is the windmill
[17:57] <BarrettBrown> Backtrace, for its part, also denies that many of the details released about the anti-Anonymous group are correct.“Some is real, some is fake. They made up a lot of addresses and phone numbers,” says the Backtrace spokesperson who goes by the name Hubris. “They’re grasping at straws. I hope they have fun with it.”
[17:57] ->> Asherah is away: I'm busy
[17:58] <BarrettBrown> http://blogs.forbes.com/andygreenberg/2011/03/22/anonymous-and-ex-anonymous-hackers-wage-a-war-of-identifica tion/
[17:58] ->> Asherah is away: I'm busy
[17:58] <BarrettBrown> You want to revise and extend your remarks?
[17:58] ->> Asherah is away: I'm busy
[17:58] <Asherah> You can't argue yourself out of this Barrett
[17:59] <BarrettBrown> Based on the fact that you put out someone else's address as mine on your Twitter, it ought not be surprising thatyou guys would make mistake.
[17:59] ->> Asherah is away: I'm busy
[17:59] <Asherah> I'm not interested in playing "no, but" with you all day
[17:59] <BarrettBrown> I would imagine not
[17:59] ->> Asherah is away: I'm busy
[17:59] <Asherah> or discussing our strategy with you
[17:59] <BarrettBrown> You're not very good at it.
[17:59] ->> Asherah is away: I'm busy
[17:59] <BarrettBrown> You've discussed your strategy with me quite a bit today alone.
[17:59] ->> Asherah is away: I'm busy
[17:59] <BarrettBrown> You just prefer not to get caught being incompetent or unethical.
[17:59] ->> Asherah is away: I'm busy
[17:59] <Asherah> Only past strategy
[18:00] <Asherah> So unless you have a time machine...
[18:00] <BarrettBrown> That's when you start pretending to be busy or not caring what I think.
[18:00] ->> Asherah is away: I'm busy
[18:00] <Asherah> I am busy
[18:00] <Asherah> and i never cared what you think
[18:00] <BarrettBrown> Right.
[18:00] ->> Asherah is away: I'm busy
[18:00] <Asherah> You're a self important narcissist
[18:00] <Asherah> your opinion of any person is suspect
[18:00] <BarrettBrown> Unlike you, I admit to failures.
[18:00] ->> Asherah is away: I'm busy
[18:00] <BarrettBrown> You can't seem to bring yourself to do that.
[18:00] ->> Asherah is away: I'm busy
[18:00] <Asherah> I haven't failed
[18:01] <BarrettBrown> You have a need to be utterly victorious
[18:01] ->> Asherah is away: I'm busy
[18:01] <BarrettBrown> When you put out the wrong info on people, you failed.
[18:01] ->> Asherah is away: I'm busy
[18:01] <BarrettBrown> And in a way that causes problems for innocent people.
[18:01] ->> Asherah is away: I'm busy
[18:01] <Asherah> Nah, I have a need to get paid which requires at least some victory
[18:01] <BarrettBrown> You're doing this for money, eh?
[18:01] ->> Asherah is away: I'm busy
[18:01] <Asherah> Been quite open about that

Later…

[18:10] <BarrettBrown> Does the fact that "Hubris" told the press that much of your info was wrong contradict your assertion that it's all correct?
[18:10] ->> Asherah is away: I'm busy
[18:11] <Asherah> Hubris was being funny
[18:11] <Asherah> My information was correct
[18:11] <Asherah> and has been verified
[18:12] <Asherah> \and any that would not have been would hjave nbeen verified by the folks withn the subpoena and warrant powers
[18:12] <BarrettBrown> So, Hubris was telling a joke?
[18:12] ->> Asherah is away: I'm busy
[18:12] <Asherah> Ask Hubris
[18:12] <BarrettBrown> You just spoke for him.
[18:12] ->> Asherah is away: I'm busy
[18:12] <BarrettBrown> Sounds like I can ask you.
[18:12] ->> Asherah is away: I'm busy
[18:13] <Asherah> From here out, i will no longer address your issues with random people.  You will address those people or complain elsewhere
[18:13] <BarrettBrown> You're quicker to answer things when they don't show you to be wrong.
[18:13] ->> Asherah is away: I'm busy
[18:13] <BarrettBrown> Hubris is a random person?
[18:13] ->> Asherah is away: I'm busy
[18:13] <BarrettBrown> That's odd.
[18:13] ->> Asherah is away: I'm busy
[18:13] <Asherah> Like i said before, you're bad at this.  A child.
[18:13] <BarrettBrown> You seem to know his hidden intent in talking to the press.
[18:13] ->> Asherah is away: I'm busy
[18:14] <Asherah> I do
[18:14] <Asherah> I am not interested in sharing it with you
[18:14] <BarrettBrown> You already claim to have.
[18:14] ->> Asherah is away: I'm busy
[18:14] <BarrettBrown> You said he was being funny.
[18:14] ->> Asherah is away: I'm busy
[18:14] <BarrettBrown> Maybe you should write down your policy.
[18:14] ->> Asherah is away: I'm busy
[18:14] <BarrettBrown> That way you'll know what it is.

So, there you go. That’s Backtrace Security. If the Feds are actually working with these people in any capacity whatsoever, that needs to be looked at, I think. At any rate, we’ll be letting the lawyers know.

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